Legislature(2023 - 2024)ADAMS 519

05/05/2023 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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HOUSE BILL NO. 154                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating to subsidiary corporations of the                                                                         
     Alaska Housing Finance Corporation; and establishing                                                                       
     the Alaska energy independence fund."                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:23:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
AKIS  GIALOPSOS, DEPUTY  EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR,  ALASKA HOUSING                                                                    
FINANCE CORPORATION,  DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE,  COMMUNITY AND                                                                    
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:24:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Gialopsos introduced  the PowerPoint presentation" House                                                                    
Bill 154:  Alaska's Energy Independence  Fund" dated  May 5,                                                                    
2023 (copy on file).                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Gialopsos  advanced   to   slide   4  titled    Policy                                                                    
Objectives.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Establishing the Alaska Energy Independence Fund                                                                           
   (AEIF) and a subsidiary corporation managing assets:                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
          Helps Alaskans be more resilient, less energy                                                                         
          constrained with a stronger economy.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
          Furthers the Alaska State Energy Goal                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Gialopsos  explained  that  HB 154  had  a  three  goal                                                                    
objective.  The first  goal would  allow the  Alaska Housing                                                                    
Finance  Corporation   (AHFC)  to  establish   a  subsidiary                                                                    
corporation with the purpose  of pursuing sustainable energy                                                                    
development. The  second goal authorized AHFC,  working with                                                                    
AEA to  provide technical assistance to  both the non-profit                                                                    
and  quasi-public  entities  that would  pursue  sustainable                                                                    
energy development.  The third  goal established  the Alaska                                                                    
Energy Independence  Fund (AEIF) to pursue  historic federal                                                                    
funding  opportunities and  work to  aggregate capital  with                                                                    
existing financial  institutions in  the state.  He compared                                                                    
Alaskas   economy  to  Hawaii   and  called  it  an   island                                                                    
economy   in  terms  of  energy  generation.  Therefore,  he                                                                    
believed  that  the  state needed  to  take  a  multifaceted                                                                    
approach to  help communities depend less  on  fragile lines                                                                    
of  supply  for  its  energy needs.  He  furthered that  the                                                                    
Alaska State Energy Policy, established  in statute in 2010,                                                                    
mandated that  half of the  state's energy  generation would                                                                    
be from renewable  resources by 2050 and  the bill supported                                                                    
that goal.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:27:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Gialopsos  continued   on  slide   5  titled    Policy                                                                    
Objectives (continued):                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     AEIF could help spur energy innovation consistent with                                                                     
     Governor Dunleavy's administration objectives:                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     The Office of Energy Innovation (AO 340)                                                                                   
     The Alaska Energy Security Task Force (AO 344)                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     AEIF would draw federal and private capital to assist                                                                      
     Alaska homes and businesses be more independent in                                                                         
     their energy choices.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Gialopsos  reported  that the  bill  aligned  with  the                                                                    
broader  policy initiated  by  the administration  beginning                                                                    
with the  prior years   Inaugural Sustainable  Energy Summit                                                                    
that would  meet again at the  end of the current  month. He                                                                    
mentioned the  two Administrative Orders (AO)  listed on the                                                                    
slide and expounded that both  orders recognized the need to                                                                    
examine Alaskas   energy supply in the  geopolitical context                                                                    
and  develop  significant  resources to  remain  sustainable                                                                    
during  shocks  to the  system  caused  by world  events. He                                                                    
spoke  to  additional  policy objectives  of  the  bill.  He                                                                    
advanced   to   slide   6   titled       Policy   Objectives                                                                    
(continued):                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     AEIF will help Alaska compete for historic federal                                                                         
     funding opportunities to improve the energy profile                                                                        
     for homes and businesses:                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
          U.S. Environmental  Protection Agency's Greenhouse                                                                    
          Gas Reduction Fund  (GHGRF) grant opportunity from                                                                    
          a  pool of  $27 billion  in available  funding (no                                                                    
          Notice of Funding yet  application period as early                                                                    
          as summer 2023)                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
          Waivers  from the  Department of  Energy for  loan                                                                    
          guarantees  if  funded   through  a  State  Energy                                                                    
          Finance Institute (e.g., AEIF)                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
          Stacked with time-limited energy tax credits.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Gialopsos  recounted  that   a  prior  version  of  the                                                                    
legislation [HB 170 - Energy  Independence Program and Fund:                                                                    
AIDEA,  2021]  was  introduced   in  the  prior  legislative                                                                    
session.   Subsequently,    two   significant    pieces   of                                                                    
congressional law had been  enacted, which included historic                                                                    
funding opportunities  for the  state. In  addition, several                                                                    
federal agencies were allowed to  enact tools that the state                                                                    
had  difficulty implementing  in  the  past. He  exemplified                                                                    
loan guarantees  from the Department of  Energy. Through the                                                                    
proposed  subsidiary and  fund the  state could  ensure that                                                                    
proven renewable  energy technologies  would have  access to                                                                    
the  loan guarantees  for  communities  and individuals.  In                                                                    
addition,  the  federal government  simultaneously  extended                                                                    
tax  credits for  businesses  and  individuals through  2032                                                                    
that were meant to  accompany the capitalization access that                                                                    
the Greenhouse Gas Reduction Fund (GHGRF) had envisioned.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:31:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Gialopsos  continued   on  slide   7  titled    Policy                                                                    
Objectives Summary:                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Policy Objectives of establishing the Alaska Energy                                                                        
     Independence Fund are:                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
      Helping Alaskans be less dependent on expensive                                                                         
      energy sources for their homes and businesses.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          Be  competitive  for once-in-a-generation  federal                                                                    
          funding  opportunities  to   leverage  public  and                                                                    
          private capital for energy projects.                                                                                  
Mr. Gialopsos quickly  proceeded to slide 8  titled  Role of                                                                    
AHFC In Energy                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska Housing Finance Corporation has a long track                                                                        
     record of managing innovative programs to tackle                                                                           
     energy challenges for homeowners and communities.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Energy Efficiency Interest Rate Reduction:                                                                                 
     AHFC  offers interest  rate  reductions when  financing                                                                    
     new  or  existing  energy   efficient  homes,  or  when                                                                    
     borrowers  make  energy  improvements  to  an  existing                                                                    
     home.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Gialopsos  elucidated that  the slide  was a  summary of                                                                    
other remarks  given by Mr.  Bryan Butcher,  Chief Executive                                                                    
Officer  and  Executive  Director,  Alaska  Housing  Finance                                                                    
Corporation, Department  of Revenue earlier in  the session.                                                                    
He  noted  that  AHFC  had  a  long  running  weatherization                                                                    
program that  incentivized energy efficiency  through energy                                                                    
efficiency interest  rate reductions.  The slide  showed how                                                                    
the  corporation used  financial instrumentation  to provide                                                                    
incentives to further energy goals.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Gialopsos discussed  slide 9  titled  Role  of AHFC  in                                                                    
Energy (continued):                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Renovation Loan Option:                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
          Allows  for improvements  that increases  a home's                                                                    
          value; increases the energy  efficiency of a home;                                                                    
          incorporates universal  design principles  to age-                                                                    
          in-place  while  improving Alaska's  aging housing                                                                    
          stock.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
          Since FY20 AHFC has financed 338 renovation loans                                                                     
          for just under $100M.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Gialopsos  offered  that the  Renovation  Loan  program                                                                    
infused real dollars to benefit the lives of Alaskans.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Gialopsos moved  to slide  10 titled   Role of  AHFC In                                                                    
Energy (continued):                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Experiences meeting unique challenges:                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     AHFC has a tradition of working with sister agencies                                                                       
     and organizations, stepping up, and meeting needs of                                                                       
     Alaskans:                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Standing up programs to help Alaskans in need:                                                                             
          Home Energy Rebate                                                                                                    
          Emergency Rental Assistance and Homeowner                                                                           
          Assistance                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Standing up subsidiaries to meet policy needs of                                                                           
     Alaskans:                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
         Alaska Corporation on Affordable Housing                                                                               
          Alaska Gasline Development Corporation (AGDC)                                                                         
          (originally a subsidiary of AHFC).                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Gialopsos related that the  slide intended to illustrate                                                                    
AHFCs    track  record   of  creating   especially  purposed                                                                    
financial  vehicles through  subsidiaries  when meeting  the                                                                    
threshold of challenges set  by policymakers. He exemplified                                                                    
the  instigation  of the  Home  Energy  Rebate Program  that                                                                    
began  with  a  significant  amount  of  capitalization  via                                                                    
General  Funds  (GF)  along  with  a  federal  program  that                                                                    
distributed  almost $500  million  to improve  the lives  of                                                                    
Alaskans.  The   program  assisted  homeowners   achieve  30                                                                    
percent  more  energy   efficiency,  translating  into  cost                                                                    
savings.  He noted  that AHFC  distributed Emergency  Rental                                                                    
Assistance  and Homeowner  Assistance  that was  implemented                                                                    
with  pandemic relief  money. The  corporation had  stood up                                                                    
several  special  purpose  vehicles,   such  as  the  Alaska                                                                    
Corporation  on Affordable  Housing,  which  had engaged  in                                                                    
successful  senior and  low income  development projects  in                                                                    
Anchorage  and Fairbanks  with the  goal  of expanding  into                                                                    
other communities.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster  recognized that  Representative  Josephson                                                                    
had joined the meeting.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:37:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CURTIS THAYER, EXECUTIVE  DIRECTOR, ALASKA ENERGY AUTHORITY,                                                                    
DEPARTMENT OF  COMMERCE COMMUNITY AND  ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT,                                                                    
(via  teleconference),  introduced himself  and  highlighted                                                                    
slide 11 titled ABOUT AEA:                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     AEA's mission is to reduce the cost of energy in                                                                           
     Alaska. To achieve this mission, AEA strives to                                                                            
     diversify   Alaska's   energy   portfolio    increasing                                                                    
     resiliency, reliability, and redundancy.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Thayer and  provided additional  information about  the                                                                    
Alaska  Energy Authority  (AEA). He  explained that  the AEA                                                                    
was  a public  corporation  established  by the  legislature                                                                    
with a  board of directors.  He relayed the mission  of AEA.                                                                    
The authority had 6 primary focused areas:                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Railbelt   Energy,   AEA    owns   the   Bradley   Lake                                                                    
     Hydroelectric  Project, the  Alaska  Intertie, and  the                                                                    
     Sterling  to Quartz  Creek  Transmission  Line  all  of                                                                    
     which benefit  Railbelt consumers by reducing  the cost                                                                    
     of power.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Power Cost  Equalization (PCE) PCE reduces  the cost of                                                                    
     electricity by  leveling the rate between  the railbelt                                                                    
     and rural  Alaska for  rural residential  customers and                                                                    
     community   facilities,   which    helps   ensure   the                                                                    
     sustainability of  centralized power. The  fund totaled                                                                    
     $1 billion and funded 193 communities.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Rural  Energy  AEA  constructs  bulk  fuel tank  farms,                                                                    
     diesel powerhouses,  and electrical  distribution grids                                                                    
     in rural villages. AEA supports  the operation of these                                                                    
     facilities   through   circuit  rider   and   emergency                                                                    
     response programs.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Renewable  Energy and  Energy Efficiency,  AEA provides                                                                    
     funding,   technical   assistance,  and   analysis   on                                                                    
     alternative  energy technologies  to benefit  Alaskans.                                                                    
     These include biomass, hydro,  solar, wind, nuclear and                                                                    
     others.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Grants  and   Loans,  AEA   provides  loans   to  local                                                                    
     utilities,  local  governments, and  independent  power                                                                    
     producers  for the  construction  or  upgrade of  power                                                                    
     generation and other energy facilities.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Energy  Planning   In   collaboration  with  local  and                                                                    
     regional   partners,   AEA    provides   economic   and                                                                    
     engineering analysis  to plan the development  of cost-                                                                    
     effective energy infrastructure.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Thayer   remarked  that  under  renewable   energy  and                                                                    
efficiency  AEA offered  grants and  programs and  funded 38                                                                    
projects through  the Renewable  Energy Fund (REF),  27 more                                                                    
were  pending. The  authority  had found  that  many of  the                                                                    
projects just needed  a bit of extra funding  that the state                                                                    
and federal  governments was unable to  provide. The funding                                                                    
through REF had jump started  some of the projects. He added                                                                    
that the  Power Project Fund  would be complimentary  to the                                                                    
proposed  program  in  HB 154.  In  addition,  AEA  provided                                                                    
energy  planning and  collaboration. He  addressed slide  12                                                                    
titled   AEA Active  Projects  and  Services  that  depicted                                                                    
AEAs   footprint  in the  state.  The  proposed energy  fund                                                                    
authorized  AEA  to  provide its  infrastructure  expertise,                                                                    
analysis,    and   technical    support   for    sustainable                                                                    
development.  He summarized  that the  corporation would  be                                                                    
the bankers  and AEA would  provide the  technical expertise                                                                    
to move the  project forward in order to  obtain the federal                                                                    
funding and advance the state's renewable goals.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:41:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  asked if AEA  had a copy of  slide 12                                                                    
on  their website.  She  wanted  to look  at  it in  further                                                                    
detail.  Mr. Thayer  answered  yes  and no.   The slide  was                                                                    
prepared for  the presentation  however everything  could be                                                                    
found on the  internet and was identifiable  on the website.                                                                    
He offered to provide additional information if necessary.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:42:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Galvin thought  the proposal  seemed like  a                                                                    
 tremendous  opportunity. She asked  if the program would be                                                                    
limited or whether  it applied to all the  types of projects                                                                    
listed  on  slide  12.  Mr.   Thayer  responded  that  AEAs                                                                     
projects were  limited by  the size of  the project  and who                                                                    
was eligible  to apply such as,  communities and independent                                                                    
power producers but not necessarily  by individuals. The new                                                                    
fund  included individuals.  He  added that  as  far as  the                                                                    
qualifications,  AEA was  still awaiting  guidance from  the                                                                    
federal Environmental  Protection Agency (EPA).  However, it                                                                    
appeared  that the  majority of  AEA projects  would qualify                                                                    
for the new funding.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:44:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Gialopsos continued on slide  13 titled  House Bill 154:                                                                    
Overview:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     House Bill 154 (and Senate Bill 125) proposes two                                                                          
     actions for the Legislature's consideration:                                                                               
     Empowers   AHFC  to   work  with   AEA  on   developing                                                                    
     sustainable energy  development through  several tools,                                                                    
     including     establishing    non-profit     subsidiary                                                                    
     corporations.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Establishes the Alaska  Energy Independence Fund (AEIF)                                                                    
     with  the intent  to be  managed  by AHFC's  non-profit                                                                    
     subsidiary  corporation. The  fund is  capitalized with                                                                    
     General Funds initially and federal receipt authority.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Gialopsos reiterated the goals of the legislation.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Gialopsos concluded his presentation  on slide 14 titled                                                                    
 House Bill 154: Proposed Policy Implementation Process:"                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     1. Legislation creating the Alaska  Energy Independence                                                                  
        Fund (AEIF) & empowering AHFC to create a non-profit                                                                    
        subsidiary passes and is enacted.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     2. The AHFC  Board of  Directors, in  consultation with                                                                  
        legal  counsel,  creates  a   non-profit  subsidiary                                                                    
        corporation  to  manage  the   AEIF.  That  creation                                                                    
        includes bylaws and initial regulations  by AHFC for                                                                    
        the non-profit subsidiary.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     3. The created non-profit subsidiary  acquires relevant                                                                  
        staff and works with the Alaska Energy Authority and                                                                    
        AHFC on crafting the  sustainable energy development                                                                    
        programs articulated in House Bill 154.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     4. The created  non-profit  subsidiary pursues  federal                                                                  
        funding opportunities and  establishes relationships                                                                    
        with  financial   institutions   to  begin   capital                                                                    
        aggregation.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Gialopsos delineated  that the  bill was  amended in  a                                                                    
prior committee with an  immediate effective date therefore,                                                                    
the effective date would be  the same as the enactment date.                                                                    
The bylaws  would provide the assurance  that the subsidiary                                                                    
would not  have recourse  on the  parent corporation  or the                                                                    
mortgages  and  bonds  that  were  securitized  through  the                                                                    
parent  corporation. He  pointed  out that  step 3  included                                                                    
establishing   the  funding   opportunities.  Finally,   the                                                                    
programs  that would  be developed  would be  dependent upon                                                                    
the size and success of the amount of capitalization.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:49:34 PM                                                                                                                    
Co-Chair Edgmon  commented that  he thought  the legislation                                                                    
was  important. He  understood  that the  bill  was tied  to                                                                    
federal grant  money and Infrastructure Investment  and Jobs                                                                    
Act (IIJA) money. He asked why  the bill was not put forward                                                                    
at an earlier time in the session.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster  noted that  there  was  a hearing  request                                                                    
dated March  19, 2023, however,  the governor had  around 16                                                                    
bills  in the  committee and  many other  bill sponsors  had                                                                    
relayed that their  bill was important. He  had attempted to                                                                    
balance all bill hearing requests.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Gialopsos responded that  the legislation was introduced                                                                    
at a relatively  later date because of the  need to evaluate                                                                    
the language of  the Inflation Reduction Act  that was still                                                                    
lacking  specific  guidance   from  federal  agencies,  most                                                                    
notably, the EPA.  Additionally, the bill had  to be drafted                                                                    
differently than the prior bill  due to the inclusion of new                                                                    
provisions concerning AHFC.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:53:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Edgmon commented  that he did not  want to undercut                                                                    
the significance of the bill.  He understood that there were                                                                    
valid reasons for the later introduction of the bill.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster   noted  that   the  hearing   request  was                                                                    
submitted on April 24, 2023.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:54:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  asked whether  the bill was  the only                                                                    
green  bank bill  and if  that  there was  not another  bill                                                                    
introduced earlier  in the session. Mr.  Gialopsos responded                                                                    
in  the  affirmative.  The  bill   was  the  only  piece  of                                                                    
legislation that  authorized a green bank  to be implemented                                                                    
in  state law.  Representative Hannan  asked if  it was  the                                                                    
only bill  introduced, not just by  the administration bill.                                                                    
She presumed that it was the only green bank legislation.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Foster responded  that  Representative Hannan  was                                                                    
correct  to his  knowledge. He  added that  he had  received                                                                    
emails regarding adopting green bank legislation.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:56:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson  recalled   that  the  prior  bill                                                                    
included  a commission  and  there was  a  dispute over  who                                                                    
would be on the commission.  Another version required that a                                                                    
certain amount  of funding  went to  rural Alaska.  He asked                                                                    
for a  discussion on the  transition away from  a commission                                                                    
model. He  assumed that the decision  making authority would                                                                    
be up  to the AHFC  board. He asked  if he was  correct. Mr.                                                                    
Gialopsos  responded   that  the  distinction   between  the                                                                    
previous legislation  and a  prior version  in 2022  was the                                                                    
prior  version included  an advisory  board that  would have                                                                    
advised the  parent company on  how to administer  the fund.                                                                    
He  remembered that  the previous  bill  tried to  apportion                                                                    
elements of  the portfolio between  urban and  rural Alaska.                                                                    
Regarding HB  154, the corporation was  proposing very broad                                                                    
measures  for  a  few  reasons. He  detailed  that  the  new                                                                    
federal funding had explicit  funding opportunities, but the                                                                    
details  were still   opaque.  Therefore,  the construct  of                                                                    
the  subsidiary  corporation  was designed  to  be  flexible                                                                    
enough to pursue the funding  opportunities. The request was                                                                    
to  maintain the  tools to  be responsive  to the  sometimes                                                                    
changing  guidance  from  the  federal  agencies.  He  asked                                                                    
Representative  Josephson repeated  the second  part of  his                                                                    
inquiry. Representative  Josephson asked rather  than having                                                                    
an  advisory commission,  would  the  decision making  occur                                                                    
within  the AHFC  board. Mr.  Gialopsos  responded that  the                                                                    
subsidiary would be administered  by the corporation's board                                                                    
of directors, which aligned  with AHFCs  other subsidiaries,                                                                    
most notably the Alaska  Corporation for Affordable Housing.                                                                    
He   elaborated  that   the  structure   ensured  that   the                                                                    
subsidiarys  corporate  governance procedures,  methods, and                                                                    
actions were  aligned with the  public purpose and  that the                                                                    
technical  expertise offered  through AHFC  were aligned  as                                                                    
well.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:00:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Ortiz referred  to  the  AEA active  project                                                                    
list on  slide 12  and wondered what  the source  of funding                                                                    
was for the wide variety of projects listed.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Thayer  responded  that it  represented  AEAs   current                                                                    
active  projects. He  delineated that  there were  about 193                                                                    
communities  that  were  PCE related,  197  communities  had                                                                    
mainly  powerhouse, bulk  fuel, and  electrical emergencies.                                                                    
Currently,  there were  over 50  renewable projects  through                                                                    
the REF and  he hoped to have  27 more in FY  24. There were                                                                    
over  100 projects  in the  REF program;  50 were  currently                                                                    
active. He added that there  were 18 active loans across the                                                                    
state  in  the  Power  Project Fund  (PPF)  in  addition  to                                                                    
technical support  and owned  assets by  AEA. He  noted that                                                                    
AEA  provided technical  advice  on  renewable projects.  He                                                                    
exemplified the  following projects:  two solar  projects in                                                                    
Willow and Houston  that were funded by AEA;  the 95 percent                                                                    
renewable  project on  Prince of  Wales Island  in Southeast                                                                    
Alaska was  funded through a  $25 million AEA loan;  and $45                                                                    
million in  the Kodiak  Pillar Mountain Project.  He offered                                                                    
to provide a breakdown of each individual project.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:03:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hannan  understood that  the AEIF  fund would                                                                    
be administered  through the AHFC  board. She asked  how the                                                                    
membership  of the  AHFC  board worked  and  wondered if  it                                                                    
would  not  be prudent  to  add  some specialty  members  to                                                                    
provide  expertise  on  green   bank  issues,  since  AHFCs                                                                     
mission  was not  the same.  She  wanted to  ensure that  it                                                                    
would  not just  function as  a "rubber  stamp" entity.  She                                                                    
asked for a  description of AHFCs  board makeup  and how the                                                                    
board members  would also serve  as an oversight  entity for                                                                    
the fund.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Thayer   responded  that  AEA's  role   would  be  more                                                                    
supportive  and technical  and deferred  the  answer to  Mr.                                                                    
Gialopsos.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Gialopsos  responded that  the current  configuration of                                                                    
the  board and  the  description of  the  seats included  an                                                                    
individual who  had expertise on energy  and homebuilding, a                                                                    
member with  expertise in finance,  an individual  expert on                                                                    
rural housing,  and an  individual who  had a  background in                                                                    
working with seniors and senior  housing, which all spoke to                                                                    
the mission  of the  corporation. He noted  that it  was the                                                                    
same configuration  for other energy  programs. He  spoke to                                                                    
the  Alaska  Gasline  Development  Corporation  (AGDC)  that                                                                    
initially  was under  the AHFC  umbrella. He  recounted that                                                                    
ultimately,   the  legislature   had   decoupled    the  two                                                                    
corporations from  one another and  stood it up on  its own.                                                                    
He  offered  that the  subsidiary  established  in the  bill                                                                    
would  be  a similar  in  intent,  with  the first  step  in                                                                    
implementing the  subsidiary corporation  was to  ensure its                                                                    
managerial, personnel, and financial  culture was robust and                                                                    
in the public  interest and eventually allow it  to become a                                                                    
separate entity.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:07:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Hannan   asked    if   the   administration                                                                    
considered   creating   an   independent   board   for   the                                                                    
subsidiary. She  understood the  maturation process  for the                                                                    
AGDC because  it was the  states  in-house project.  She was                                                                    
contemplating whether  there should be an  independent board                                                                    
for the subsidiary  within the corporation that  was not the                                                                    
same governing board  as AHFCs  whose focus  was on housing.                                                                    
Mr.  Gialopsos replied  that  many  scenarios on  governance                                                                    
procedures   were  contemplated.   The   AHFC  board   would                                                                    
implement  elements  of  IIJA like  the  new  weatherization                                                                    
program that  was meant to  mirror the existing  program. He                                                                    
informed the  committee that the  board would work  with the                                                                    
Denali  Commission and  AEA. He  believed  that the  current                                                                    
board  had  much  experience utilizing  significant  federal                                                                    
funding opportunities  from prior years. It  was deemed that                                                                    
the  highest and  best  use of  the board  was  to hire  the                                                                    
appropriate  personnel  for  the subsidiary  to  secure  the                                                                    
funding  opportunities  and  meet  the demands  of  the  new                                                                    
federal  regulations,  which  a  whole new  board  may  have                                                                    
difficulty doing. In addition, time  was of the essence; the                                                                    
EPA had  been mandated to  disperse $20 million in  funds by                                                                    
September 2024. He communicated  that creating, finding, and                                                                    
vetting new board  members in addition to  the board needing                                                                    
to hire new staff elongated  the timeframe to an extent that                                                                    
the  state may  not be  able  to submit  its application  to                                                                    
federal  agencies   in  time  even   though  there   may  be                                                                    
reasonable policy implications for creating a new board.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:11:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster would  look into any desire  to expedite the                                                                    
bills committee process.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Thayer thanked the committee for its time.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HB  154  was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB154 Sectional Analysis ver S 04.24.23.pdf HFIN 5/5/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 154
HB154 Transmittal Letter 04.24.23.pdf HFIN 5/5/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 154
HB154 Summary of Changes ver A to ver S 04.24.23.pdf HFIN 5/5/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 154
SB 81 Letter of Support from OVR 04.25.23.pdf HFIN 5/5/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 81
SB 81 Sectional Analysis Version B.A 04.25.23.pdf HFIN 5/5/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 81
SB 81 Sponsor Statement Version B.A 04.25.23.pdf HFIN 5/5/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 81
SB 81 Summary of Changes from Version B to Version B.A 04.25.23.pdf HFIN 5/5/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 81
SB 81 Support Document - Excerpt from 08.18.22 Leg Council Minutes 04.25.23.pdf HFIN 5/5/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 81
1. SB 77 Sponsor Statement, vers. D, 4.25.23.pdf HFIN 5/5/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 77
3. SB 77 Summary of Changes, vers. A-D, 4.25.23.pdf HFIN 5/5/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 77
4. SB 77 Sectional Analysis, vers. D, 4.25.23.pdf HFIN 5/5/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 77
5. SB 77 Supporting Doc.; Agnew Beck Memo, 4.25.23.pdf HFIN 5/5/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 77
6. SB 77 Letters of Support Received as of 4.25.23.pdf HFIN 5/5/2023 1:30:00 PM
SB 77
HB 154 NEW FN DCCED AEA 4-28-23.pdf HFIN 5/5/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 154
HB 154 HFIN.AHFC-AEA-Presentation 050523.pdf HFIN 5/5/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 154
HB 154 Public Testimony Rec'd by 050923.pdf HFIN 5/5/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 154
HB 154 Public Testimony Rec'd by 051123 (2).pdf HFIN 5/5/2023 1:30:00 PM
HB 154